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Hannah M J Cummings's avatar

Hey, Josh! Hope you’re doing well. I stumbled upon this Substack which has led to some fun exercises in exegesis.

The 2 Corinthians pericope sits very soundly within the context of debt language within the Pauline epistles. The epistles (even those that are pseudepigraphic) reference our poverty soteriologically, and in turn how Christ paid our debt (Col. 2:13-14, Romans 6:23, Romans 8:12-13). Biblical scholars and pastors (e.g., Charles Spurgeon) recognize the overt idea of condescension of Christ, and use 2 Corinthians 8:9 to underscore that. Paul’s a big double entendre guy, so taking his words literally leads to the suffocation of the living breathing Word of the Bible that is meeting the audience where they’re at and relying on cultural cues to prompt transcendent revelation.

I totally agree that Jesus’s promise of abundance is both “already” and at the same time “not yet.” We are instructed to make it on earth as it is in Heaven in participation with the Divine Trinity and the saints. And to further that point that it’s not either/or, I think there’s a temptation to justify opulent wealth by saying that in Heaven all will be made right, as if to wipe our hands of the duty to seek justice, mercy, and reconciliation. Jesus delivered folks from all kinds of ailments, including poverty (especially considering the financial loss as a direct consequence of illness and social disenfranchisement). He also delivered others from the spiritual illness of greed (Luke 12:33, Luke 18:18-23). Paul even begins 2 Corinthians 8 with a word of praise for the churches in Macedonia for their generosity “according to their means”

The deliverance into abundance (spiritual, health, familial, financial) is also a deliverance from the obsessive control over these things (commercializing faith, capitalizing on systems of power, deceiving and withholding). The reality is that we don’t know what Heaven looks like, but we do know what Earth looks like right now, and it is wrought with wealth disparity, death and destruction of creation, and moral bankruptcy in pursuit—or justification—of material opulence.

Further down in 2 Corinthians Chapter 8 brings home the weight of our need to both rely on and support each other in favor of equity and equality: “For I do not mean that others should be eased and you burdened, but that as a matter of fairness your abundance at the present time should supply their need, so that their abundance may supply your need, that there may be fairness. As it is written, "Whoever gathered much had nothing left over, and whoever gathered little had no lack” (ref. to Ex. 16:18)

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Chris's avatar

Hey Josh it’s disappointing that anyone would call you foolish for suggesting based on your research that Jesus was possibly a wealthy man. Even though I disagree with you I would never consider someone foolish for free thought. I would challenge your research against Biblical scholars from the past 100 years? The thing with history is the ease it can be manipulated over time. In any case I am extremely interested and curious why you, your father, and leadership at Elevate are so consumed with being wealthy and prosperous with earthly possessions? I actually made the difficult decision to pull my family from your church over my concern with the utter distraction and confusion related to prioritizing earthly wealth the way you guys do. It was a hard decision because we love Mighty Men and greatly respect you and your father and family for that matter in your efforts to carry out the good news of Jesus. But the constant prioritization and emphasis on extreme wealth and possessions as cornerstones of your business model leave me confused and frustrated. And as you guys say if folks don’t like it then leave and that is what I chose to do. If you want to take the time to answer my question about extreme wealth being literally the cornerstone of your churches beliefs I would be excited to read your comments and be as open minded as possible in constructive thought development and possible change of beliefs.

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